
extraterrestrials. Some, who claimed to have been there supposedly, witnessed vats containing body and animal
parts. The lower level has been referred to as “Night Mare Hall”, again because of what was allegedly taking place at
that level. An engineer Phil Schneider, referred to actually being involved in a fire fight in 1979 when the drilling
penetrated a cavern deep within the mesa, and as a result of the fire fight, 60 bodies were removed after an
altercation with aliens. So the rumors have persisted for all these years, with no solid evidence that any of them were
factual.
Norio Hayakawa had visited the area several years ago with a Japanese film crew and was detained by the local law
enforcement. The Jicarilla Apache are not fond of outsiders encroaching on their land. That did not deter Norio
however, and he decided a few months ago to try and organize a conference in Dulce, and invited several researchers
and local residents to the conference, which he appropriately named, “Dulce Base: Fact or Fiction”, to try and
determine if any of the rumors that persisted were true.
Because Norio knew about my research interest in underground bases and tunnels for many years, he contacted me
in early January 2009, inviting me to be on the panel he was planning to put together for the conference. Having been
interested in the Dulce rumors for many years along with researcher Scott Ramsey and others, I wasn’t going to miss
this opportunity.
As can often happen in New Mexico, a spring snow storm arrived the day before I planned to drive to Dulce from
Roswell, (which is about a 7 hour drive), so I delayed my departure by one day, after the storm had moved to the
east, shutting down northeastern New Mexico, and the Texas Panhandle. The weather was ideal for the conference,
however the next morning found a light snow falling, and 72 miles of snow-packed ice awaited my return trip, out of
the Rocky Mountains back to the high plains of southeastern New Mexico.
A few other incidents occurred that were not scheduled as part of the conference. A few minutes before 6 AM on the
morning of the conference, I along with most other people in Dulce for the conference, and staying at the Jicarilla Best
Western Inn, were awakened by the sound of at least one helicopter very low over the motel. Later it was learned
that this was not normal, and no one knew where the helicopter(s) came from, whom they belonged to, or what they
were doing so low over the motel. Apparently helicopters are not totally unusual in the area, but flying that low was
unusual according to the locals who also heard it. It seemed to be a concern of some at the conference later that day.


SEARCHING FOR THE TRUTH by Dennis G. Balthaser
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For the better part of 30 years, the small town of
Dulce, NM has been attributed with all sorts of
rumors about an underground facility being there,
UFO sightings, cattle mutilations and other odd
happenings on the Archuleta Mesa, on the Jicarilla
Apache Reservation. Dulce with a population of
about 3000, is located in extreme northern New
Mexico between Chama and Farmington, just below
Pagosa Springs Colorado, in some of the most
beautiful, scenic country anywhere.
The underground base rumors that have circulated
about the facility indicated that there are 7 levels
below ground where bio-genetic experiments have
taken place involving both humans and
Dennis Balthaser moved
to Roswell in 1996 to
pursue his interest in
Ufology, after retiring
from the Texas Highway
Department in El Paso,
with 33 years in civil
engineering.
Prior to that he served 3
years in a U.S. Army
engineering battalion.
He was the UFO
Investigator and served
on the Board of Directors
for the International UFO
Museum between 1996
and 1998. Today he is an
independent researcher,
investigator, journalist
and lecturer.
Dennis has done over
350 TV, radio and other
media interviews related
to and since the 50th
anniversary of the Roswell
Incident in July, 1997,
including; CNN, MTV, SCI-
FI, The TODAY show,
Dateline, Nightline, NBC,
ABC Nightly News, Jeff
Rense, “Sightings on the
radio”, Ted Loman’s “Off
the Record”, Rob
McConnell’s “X-Zone
Radio Show”, Art Bell’s
"Coast to Coast AM",
Discovery channel,
National Geographic and
History channel, to
mention a few.
Dennis is a certified UFO
investigator with MUFON
(the Mutual UFO
Network), and is a board
member of the advisory
board for the Great
Pyramid of Giza Research
Association. His main
areas of research
comprise the 1947
Roswell Incident, Area 51,
Underground Bases and
the pyramids of Egypt.
He currently writes
editorials for 31 web sites
and UFO magazine,
pertaining to his research,
and works closely with
well-known researchers
Stanton Friedman, Frank
Warren, Scott Ramsey
and many others.
Dennis' award winning
web site; "www.
truthseekeratroswell.com"
has had over one million
visitors since 1998.



Best Western Jicarilla Inn & Wild Horse
Casino
If I may add a personal note here, when I
first drove in to Dulce, I was somewhat
surprised to find the Jicarilla Best Western
Inn and Casino being located in this small
town, that is not a ski area such as Chama or
Pagosa Springs. My first thought was why
would a nice motel and Casino be located
here? I suppose due to the Jicarilla Apache
reservation headquarters being in Dulce
would explain it, but it still seemed odd to
me. The schools are also modernistic and
much construction is being done on them. I
suppose I’ll have to do more research on this
concern.
When Norio first set up the conference, the only place in Dulce allowing him to have such an event was in the bar area
of the Inn, which when rearranged, (tables removed and chairs brought in), would seat about 50 people. Norio had
anticipated about 30 people would attend the conference, when in actuality between 100-125 actually showed up. After
the maximum seating was reached and many more wanted to come in, it was decided that because of fire codes it
would have to be moved or shut down. Second choice was moving into the restaurant dining room in the Inn, however
that also wasn’t going to work. One of the former Dulce police officers suggested the conference should be moved to a
community hall adjacent to the grocery store, which did accompany all those wanting to attend, and the conference
proceeded from there after a short intermission. Norio and I had visited the night before the conference and we both
decided if the conference drew a larger than anticipated crowd, that would in itself be a news-worthy story, which it
turned out to be, and was covered on the front page of the Albuquerque newspaper the next morning.

One researcher talked about the San Luis Valley north of Dulce being a
possible location, and that Dulce might be a diversionary site for that.
Another former Dulce police officer talked about his encounter with three
metallic, oval-shaped objects hovering at treetop level at a ranch near Dulce.
He indicated he was never trained for such an encounter. Another presenter
showed close-up satellite images of the Dulce Elementary School building, in
which the contours of the parking lot resemble an ancient stone sculpture in
Bolivia.
Another researcher talked about his investigations of the claims of Paul
Bennewitz, who he believed may have been the source behind many of the
rumors about Dulce, again indicating Dulce could be a diversionary site for
what had taken place at Kirtland Air Force base in Albuquerque around 1979.
He concluded however that there could be something at Dulce.
During my presentation I shared some of my research about Government
secrecy and some of the underground locations I have studied over the years.
One of the interesting experiences shared during the conference,
was a local rancher presenting a power point presentation about how
his family had raised cattle in the area since the 1800’s, and between
the1970’s and 1980’s 17 cattle were mutilated. During the
investigations gas masks were found near the mutilation sites and
specific cows were each tracked with phosphorescent markings a few
days before the mutilations actually took place. He was emphatic that
the government did the mutilations and no aliens were involved. He
further stated that he believed the government was doing some type
of germ warfare experiments, and that there is definitely a
government underground facility there. He had also found an
opening on the mesa that had air blowing out from within, thinking it
might be an air vent.
Another local stated that he had not located the base yet, but said it
is an undeniable fact that there have been (and still are) many UFO
sightings in the area. A former State police officer that investigated
the mutilations for years, stated it had nothing to do with aliens, but
that there is something there that is too sensitive to talk about, and
wouldn’t say anything else. He told me that there is nothing under
the Archuleta Mesa, but there was another location, which he wouldn’
t disclose to me.
A former police officer and head of the Public Safety Department stated he might organize an escorted group for the
public to visit the top of the Archuleta Mesa if desired, and suggested another conference on Dulce could be held at the
Police Department conference hall.
After listening to some of the locals I got the impression that for the Jicarilla, they believe if they see something it’s
intended for them, and not necessarily to be shared. A few years ago I visited the entrances to Area 51, and this
conference I attended in Dulce was similar, in that being at a location and talking to the locals, gives an insight not
acquired before. I still believe something very secretive has or maybe still is going on under the Archuleta Mesa on the
Jicarilla Apache Reservation at Dulce New Mexico. Hopefully another conference will be arranged and additional
information will be obtained. As I told the audience, we have to ask questions, and demand answers.